Talking with Chat GPT about Lolita Fashion

January 27, 2023


 

Hello lovelies,

ChatGPT has been in the spotlight recently. It is a powerful language model developed by OpenAI. It has been trained on a massive amount of text data and can generate human-like responses to a wide variety of prompts. It can understand and respond to natural language inputs, and can answer questions, provide information, and even engage in casual conversation.

And I thought, it would be a nice idea to ask questions about lolita fashion and see how it fares.

1. Explain lolita fashion in 100 words or less

Chat GPT: Lolita fashion is a subculture and fashion movement that originated in Japan in the late 1970s. It is characterized by modest, feminine clothing with a focus on elaborate, frilly dresses. The style is heavily influenced by Victorian and Edwardian fashion, as well as by the Rococo period. The look often includes knee-length skirts, petticoats, blouses, and bonnets or bows in the hair. The fashion is also known for its use of oversized bows, lace, ribbons, and other accessories. The Lolita style is often seen as a form of self-expression and is worn by both women and men.

I'm impressed. That is actually a good definition even though the fashion popped up in it's earliest form in the 1960s.

2. Is lolita fashion related to the lolita book by nabokov?

Chat GPT: Lolita fashion is not directly related to the book "Lolita" by Vladimir Nabokov, although the name "Lolita" has been borrowed from the title of the book. The novel, published in 1955, tells the story of a middle-aged man's obsession and sexual relationship with a young girl, Dolores Haze, whom he nicknames "Lolita". The novel is considered a classic of 20th-century literature and is known for its controversial subject matter and its exploration of themes such as love, sexuality, and morality.

The fashion movement known as Lolita fashion, on the other hand, is a subculture that originated in Japan in the late 1970s and is characterized by modest, feminine clothing with a focus on elaborate, frilly dresses. The style is heavily influenced by Victorian and Edwardian fashion, as well as by the Rococo period. The look often includes knee-length skirts, petticoats, blouses, and bonnets or bows in the hair. The fashion is also known for its use of oversized bows, lace, ribbons, and other accessories. The Lolita style is often seen as a form of self-expression and is worn by both women and men. 



Ok, we have to unpack some things here: The name is not borrowed from the title of the book. Nobody knows the origins of the name as the name "lolita" was often assosiated with a young girl but not in a Nabokov style of way. If you want to read more, F yeah lolita has an amazing article about this.

3.What is the difference between Japanese and Western lolitas?

Japanese Lolita fashion and Western Lolita fashion are both influenced by the same historical and aesthetic roots, which include Victorian and Edwardian fashion, as well as the Rococo period. However, there are some key differences between the two styles.

One of the main differences is that Japanese Lolita is considered to be more authentic and true to the original style, as it originated in Japan and has been popularized by Japanese fashion designers and brands. Japanese Lolita is also more closely tied to the otaku subculture and is often worn by people who are passionate about anime, manga, and other forms of Japanese pop culture.

On the other hand, Western Lolita is more of an interpretation of the style and is influenced by the local fashion trends and cultures. Western Lolita is usually considered more eclectic, and it may incorporate elements from different eras and styles. Western Lolita also tends to be more diverse, and it includes different sub-styles such as Gothic Lolita, Sweet Lolita and Punk Lolita.

Another difference is that Japanese Lolita fashion is more strictly regulated and has a more defined set of rules, such as the use of petticoats and the length of skirts, while Western Lolita is more relaxed and open to personal interpretation.

Additionally, Japanese Lolita fashion is more commonly worn in everyday life, while Western Lolitas tend to wear the fashion mainly on events or photoshoots.

In summary, both Japanese and Western Lolita fashion are inspired by the same historical and aesthetic roots, but Japanese Lolita is considered to be more authentic and closely tied to the otaku subculture, whereas Western Lolita is more eclectic and diverse.

Actually I would argue that Japanese Lolitas are more relaxed and the western Lolitas are "more strictly regulated", maybe to the point were it is almost gate-keeping, which in itself is probably not that bad in my opinion, as there are a set of rule which can be bent but what's the point of calling something lolita which is clearly lacking all of the characteristics? You can bend one rule but bend more of them and it probably just becomes lolita inspired? Eg. no blouse/socks in summer should be ok (imo) if the rest is there like the sillhuette, the bows or jewelry. 

4. What are the rules of lolita

Chat GPT: Lolita fashion is a subculture that has its own set of guidelines and rules that are generally followed by those who participate in the community. These rules help to maintain the aesthetic and style of the fashion, and ensure that all garments and accessories worn are appropriate for the look. Here are some of the main rules of Lolita fashion:

  1. Modest dress: Lolita fashion is known for its modest and feminine clothing, so revealing clothing such as short skirts or low-cut tops are generally not considered appropriate.

  2. Knee-length skirts: Skirts should be knee-length or longer, and should be worn with petticoats to add volume and shape.

  3. Blouses and tops: Tops should be worn with high necklines and should be made of modest, opaque fabrics.

  4. Accessories: Accessories such as bonnets, bows, lace, and ribbons are commonly worn, and should be in proportion to the outfit.

  5. Shoes: Shoes should be closed-toe, with a low heel and a round or almond toe.

  6. Wigs: Wigs are not allowed in some events, specially in Japan.

  7. Branding: Wearing items with visible branding or logos is discouraged, as it detracts from the classic and vintage aesthetic of the style.

  8. Historical accuracy: The fashion is heavily influenced by Victorian and Edwardian fashion, as well as by the Rococo period, so items should be styled and accessorized in a way that is historically accurate.

  9. Mix-matching: Mix-matching different sub-styles of Lolita (gothic, sweet, classic, etc) is frowned upon, as it can create a look that is not cohesive.

It is important to note that these rules are not set in stone, and some Lolitas may choose to interpret them differently or to create their own style. However, following these guidelines can help to create a cohesive and visually pleasing look that is true to the aesthetic of Lolita fashion.

Once again, this is not a bad list. Personally, I would just add a few details:

Blouses: high necklines is not a must, there are plenty of tops and blouses which have a medium to low neckline. And most materials are not opaque, they can also be made out of cotton or rarely, linen.

Shoes do not have to be closed toe. There can also be higher heels and the toe form is pretty much irrelevant.

As for the wigs, I did not know that. Can anyone confirm that? Wigs are often used in the Western community and I don't see a problem with wearing one, especially if you have a bad hair day. 

Branding is a point I would completly strike out. This infamous dress is from 2006 and even has the brand name printed on it in six rows.

BABY Border Hem Scallop JSK/BABYボーダー裾スカラップジャンパースカートfrom the Lolibrary archive

The historical accuracy is something I would strike out too. Nobody cares if people wear a rococo inspired dress with a victorian styled bonnet. 

And the mix and matching point is something that I would maybe keep. There have been mixed styles and they can be good if coordinated well. 

5.How many lolitas are there worldwide?

Chat GPT: It is difficult to estimate the exact number of people worldwide who participate in the Lolita fashion subculture, as the community is decentralized and not all members are active in online communities or events. However, the subculture is known to have a significant following in Japan, where it originated, and it has also gained popularity in other countries such as the United States, Europe, and Asia.

According to some sources, the number of people in Japan who identify as Lolitas is estimated to be around 100,000, with a majority of them are women. However, in other countries, the numbers are not known.

It is important to note that many people who participate in the Lolita subculture do not necessarily identify as Lolitas, and some people may only wear Lolita fashion occasionally or for special events. Additionally, some people may participate in the subculture but not be active in online communities or events, making it difficult to get an accurate count of the total number of people involved.

In summary, it's hard to know the exact number of Lolitas worldwide, but it's considered to be a considerable number.

I would be interesting to know but that was a bit of a wide stretch and Chat GPT is correct with the third paragraph. 

That was really fun and maybe I will do a part two. 

All the best,

Auris Lothol

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